Comments on: Could Indians Trade Josh Tomlin for Yonder Alonso? http://wahoosonfirst.com/2011/12/01/could-indians-trade-josh-tomlin-for-yonder-alonso/ A Cleveland Indians Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:22:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: How Much is Yonder Alonso Really Worth? — Wahoo's on First http://wahoosonfirst.com/2011/12/01/could-indians-trade-josh-tomlin-for-yonder-alonso/#comment-1100 How Much is Yonder Alonso Really Worth? — Wahoo's on First Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:54:32 +0000 http://wahoosonfirst.com/?p=2658#comment-1100 [...] idea of bringing Alonso to Progressive Field, and I’ve previously suggested that the Indians build a deal around Alonso and Josh [...] [...] idea of bringing Alonso to Progressive Field, and I’ve previously suggested that the Indians build a deal around Alonso and Josh [...]

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]]> By: tribe1045 http://wahoosonfirst.com/2011/12/01/could-indians-trade-josh-tomlin-for-yonder-alonso/#comment-1088 tribe1045 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:12:56 +0000 http://wahoosonfirst.com/?p=2658#comment-1088 This is a potential trade that only makes sense in that the Indians need a first baseman and the Reds need a pitcher. The Indians would be doing themselves a disservice to trade Tomlin away at the moment. With the injury to Carrasco, trading Tomlin would be handing a spot in the rotation to either David Huff or Jeanmar Gomez, both of whom are best- served as depth options for the moment. I don't imagine Josh Tomlin having any trouble replicating or outperforming his 2011 season in the coming years because, statistically, his season was not overwhelming. On the other hand, I'm not sure Alonso is the "sexy young player" you're speaking of. Alonso came up for a cup of coffee at the end of the season in a low- pressure environment and put up some good numbers, but he still struck out in nearly a quarter of his ABs. This season in AAA was Alonso's second at the level. At 24, he put together a line of .296/.374/.486 with 12 HR and 56 RBI in 358 ABs - almost an exact replica of his 2010 season at the same level. In 2009, another fellow we all know as Matt LaPorta had his first season at AAA at the age of 24. In 338 ABs, he put together a .299/.388/.530 line with 17 HR and 60 RBI. In their time at the AAA level (LaPorta has played 20 G with AAA Columbus in the last two seasons,) LaPorta even has a better BB:K at .81 to Alonso's .61. Plate discipline has been one of Alonso's most-lauded assets. Alonso's star has been falling for some time - ranked the #35 prospect in baseball before the 2009 season, that rank fell to #45 the following year and down to #73 prior to last season as he hasn't transitioned into the player the Reds organization envisioned. The Reds already have Votto at first and no room for Alonso, so they'd love to make him somebody else's problem. Personally, I believe Alonso will find decent success in the majors, but not as a perennial all-star. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reds manage to receive a pitcher "better than" Tomlin on the trade market as I've seen many GMs make emotional decisions. However, I don't believe this deal would be in the Indians' best interest - nevermind that the Reds think Alonso could fetch much more. This is a potential trade that only makes sense in that the Indians need a first baseman and the Reds need a pitcher. The Indians would be doing themselves a disservice to trade Tomlin away at the moment. With the injury to Carrasco, trading Tomlin would be handing a spot in the rotation to either David Huff or Jeanmar Gomez, both of whom are best- served as depth options for the moment.

I don’t imagine Josh Tomlin having any trouble replicating or outperforming his 2011 season in the coming years because, statistically, his season was not overwhelming. On the other hand, I’m not sure Alonso is the “sexy young player” you’re speaking of.

Alonso came up for a cup of coffee at the end of the season in a low- pressure environment and put up some good numbers, but he still struck out in nearly a quarter of his ABs. This season in AAA was Alonso’s second at the level. At 24, he put together a line of .296/.374/.486 with 12 HR and 56 RBI in 358 ABs – almost an exact replica of his 2010 season at the same level.

In 2009, another fellow we all know as Matt LaPorta had his first season at AAA at the age of 24. In 338 ABs, he put together a .299/.388/.530 line with 17 HR and 60 RBI. In their time at the AAA level (LaPorta has played 20 G with AAA Columbus in the last two seasons,) LaPorta even has a better BB:K at .81 to Alonso’s .61. Plate discipline has been one of Alonso’s most-lauded assets.

Alonso’s star has been falling for some time – ranked the #35 prospect in baseball before the 2009 season, that rank fell to #45 the following year and down to #73 prior to last season as he hasn’t transitioned into the player the Reds organization envisioned. The Reds already have Votto at first and no room for Alonso, so they’d love to make him somebody else’s problem.

Personally, I believe Alonso will find decent success in the majors, but not as a perennial all-star. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Reds manage to receive a pitcher “better than” Tomlin on the trade market as I’ve seen many GMs make emotional decisions. However, I don’t believe this deal would be in the Indians’ best interest – nevermind that the Reds think Alonso could fetch much more.

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